Who else hates kokorogi?

Thomas_york said:
Dude i already said that i'm not answering your questions because it's spoiler, why can't you simply accept this simple little thing.
You keep babbling about being plot hole when it's not, it's this childish behaviour that is annoying, you keep saying shit about something that is obviously intentionally unexplained being plothole and when i tell you that it isn't plothole you change subject and then you ask for "answers" when i can't even put here in this thread of the episode 12.
As i said, good job for making the real questions, that's exactly what you should be doing but you also should know that obviously are reason for all of this. But whatever, now it's the time to change subject once again, yes? Go on

And you still hasn't explained One Piece's plot hole

Thomas_york said:


Just joking, it's cuz is the same situation. Just because the author hasn't told us what the One Piece truly is you should consider it a plothole (based on the way you judge what a plothole is, like something that you don't need to use 3 brain cells to know that there's obviously an answer but you continue to judge as plothole) in this way, it's a plothole in one piece, don't you agree?

DarkflamingPiS said:
M8, I think I need to emphasize my points even harder.

Cool, nothing wrong with that.
But don't tunnel your vision, self-made theories and assumptions might be wrong.
I personally feel some explainations in TG are excessive, Tsukino's ones, for example.

Look up the definition of "Reverse Chronology".
FYI, they butchered a bunch of scenes and dialogues in order to fit 25 chapters into 12 episodes. Clearly there are missing links.
(Monthly chapters, so it's a bit longer than weekly ones plus wall of texts when rules and explainations are related)
In fact, 101 chapters, roughly equal to 4 seasons, pieces of the main plot are still in the shadow. What do you expect from 12 episodes?
New problems following up by unsolved mysteries, ofc it takes a lot of time.

So is this your conclusion and that's why you deem them asspulles?
I'm sorry that we might be a bit different. I consider them hints for mysteries or unsolved problems to link them with each others.

There is, no comment as I don't want to spoil (Major one tbh). Idk why you even complained tbh.


M8, go rewatch the final episode, it was an unstoppable speedrun s*** but it did keep the adequate explaination for that, a whole 1.5 mins of screentime.

I truly don't get this, are cliffhanger and plothole synonyms, or at least similar at some point in human history? I'm honestly curious here.

Let me say it one last time, I did used assumption ONCE. But that assumption was YOURS to begin with.
I SIMPLIFY the matter of Yuuichi having 10M+ by calling it a LIKELY bluff.

He has his source. Who, unknown atm.
Those matters actually HIGHLIGHTED that Yuuichi has some kind of past that he doesn't want many ppl to know.
Should I recommend you to read the manga or wait for ss2, ss3, ss4, if any, to quench your thirst of information?
Mysteries take time to solve, cards are on the table, but not all of them. For Pete's sake, please be patient if you can't do card counting tbh.

Be careful with the IF of yours here, it's illogical.
-IF Kuroki has connection with TG System, st is wrong with his head trying to imitate the real ones. TG System clearly FORBIDS ppl to speak up abt it, let alone faking it (Remember what happened to Tenji's father).
-Your IF makes Kuroki's conducts suicidal ones.
In Ep.12, did Tenji verbally state that they doubted the genuinity of the special TG? With such abnormalities, should he make a call? Clearly he should and in fact, he did.

Ever notice that we can only see Yuuichi's POV and peak into his thought process briefly in the 1st game?
Then the POV has shifted, mostly 3rd person and Tenji's.
Remember the flashback of Yuuichi's and his short dream? The OP and ED even spoiled that.
I have to stop here but it's a heavy indicator to his character and I don't want to use spoilers in a debate.
Trust me, Yuuichi has been being built slowly and CONSISTENTLY, but the character's depth and complexity are simply too big for 12 episodes.

This is where and why I said you tunneled your vision, you trapped it by your own prejudices.
He's no mastermind like you said.
He has been being called st like "Human abomination" or "Monster" by 3rd party (Tsukino, his group's observer) steadily throughout the series. Were his ruthless ways to achieve his goal not sufficient enough to prove this? Were his acts of manipulation based on con arts not apparent enough?

V1P3R0P said:

Have you ever considered the possibility of a traitor within the group?

I mean that was the main topic of discussion ever since Episode 1.

DarkflamingPiS said:

M8, I can see that we might be able to come up with an mutual understanding.
They did, they cut some clues for the main plot in Ep.11 for example, they even cut the most important hint to connect all the pieces together.
Yep it's a bit unfortunate cuz the adaptation's faithfulness is questionable but trust me, no plothole, no asspull in the main story.
Unanswered details are intended. Just wanna say it again, they ain't plotholes.
If you are an anime-only audience or first timer, I agree, the cliffhanger is indeed annoying.
By any chances does it pique your interest, I highly recommend you to start reading the manga from the start, no cutoff, no bs. Even extra chapter has st to do with the story.